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Not to stir the pot too much... or derail the thread from all the kissing  :P ... but there's recently been some unpleasantness (between myself and a couple others) that could be cleared up with a few PMs or some e-mail messages... posting it to the forum is inappropriate (since it could get blown out of proportion, and people could get embarrassed)...

...just another vote for PMs earlier... yay PMs [smiley=engel017.gif]

You could email....

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I realize that not everyone lists their email, I myself did not list my email for a very long time. Due to the fact that I did not want unsolicited emails. The same goes with PMs...I'm sorry but you have to earn the right to use PMs around here, thats just the way it is. If you want to speak with someone privately and have not yet gained PM use then ask them to email you. If they don't email, sorry. Really there's not much more I can tell ya.  :-/

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[bedpan_cowboy]

i worked hard for my 500 pms, i thin the limit really is a good thing, mainly because by posting 500 times, you have built up a personality, youve got to know everyone thuroughly and you have a decent understanding of the forum, then you should have the ability to pm, bacuse then you know the people, i jsut think its another feature that make this community the brilliant polished little gem that it is, if you love this place so much, you will wait. its a test of loyalty in a way

~bedpan

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I'm sorry but you have to earn the right to use PMs around here, thats just the way it is.

Not that it has anything directly to do with PM, but this idea of "us" versus "them" I've noticed a bit around here. Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive about it, but that seems counter-productive toward building a community.

What I'm seeing is either excellent artists, who don't have much time to post... and who get much deserved praise and inclusion among the group, or people who just hang out here all the time. Those of us who aren't so skilled just don't seem welcome.

Realizing people say "welcome" and all that when you're first joining... and that a few good eggs generally make an effort to respond to a person's posts... the other sentiment seems to be more prevalent. Us vs. them. There's an inner sanctum that must not be disturbed.

It would be nice to be able to send off a quick hello or how's your father to someone, and other people now and again... because it helps build friendships. I've used that feature on at least a dozen other forums, and it works.

But... we come back to square one... where it's your sandbox, your rules. I'm not upset... just making an observation. If I ever improve as an artist, maybe I'll post a few more pics. Until then, the walls of the inner sanctum will not be rattled by me.

@ Bedpan: Nobody's taking away your 500+ posts... it would just be a way of opening up communication... whereas I feel more communication helps a community, some seem to feel it jeopardizes it.

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I'm sorry but you have to earn the right to use PMs around here, thats just the way it is.

Not that it has anything directly to do with PM, but this idea of "us" versus "them" I've noticed a bit around here. Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive about it, but that seems counter-productive toward building a community.

Okay me using 'thats just the way it is' was probably not quite the way I should have worded that...sometimes I am too blunt for my own good. I personally have never noticed an "us vs them" around here. I do see some people who talk to each other more than others, but that is because some of us are on here more often. So, heck, we talk to each other.

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What I'm seeing is either excellent artists, who don't have much time to post... and who get much deserved praise and inclusion among the group, or people who just hang out here all the time. Those of us who aren't so skilled just don't seem welcome.  

Okay maybe you could elaborate on this paragraph for me because I am just not getting it. And are you actually considering yourself "aren't so skilled"? I would give my right pinky to have even half the talent you have.

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Realizing people say "welcome" and all that when you're first joining... and that a few good eggs generally make an effort to respond to a person's posts... the other sentiment seems to be more prevalent. Us vs. them. There's an inner sanctum that must not be disturbed.

It would be nice to be able to send off a quick hello or how's your father to someone, and other people now and again... because it helps build friendships. I've used that feature on at least a dozen other forums, and it works.

But... we come back to square one... where it's your sandbox, your rules. I'm not upset... just making an observation. If I ever improve as an artist, maybe I'll post a few more pics. Until then, the walls of the inner sanctum will not be rattled by me.

I think most of us say "welcome" because we actually mean it. Honest to god, I am still not getting the 'us vs them' thing you are feeling....really I would like some situations that you could show me, so I could maybe better understand. I also understand that you would like to be able to send off quick hello's, but I don't see why having your hello "hidden" in a PM is any different that saying it on the forum. We all became friends in the forum first. Before the forum upgrade, PMs were not allowed at all.

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@ Bedpan: Nobody's taking away your 500+ posts... it would just be a way of opening up communication... whereas I feel more communication helps a community, some seem to feel it jeopardizes it.

It may not be taking away his 500+ posts. But it is taking away the gift he received by reaching 500 posts. His goal that he worked hard towards. No longer would being able to PM be an acheivement. Most of us like to feel like we have achieved something, even if it is so minor as this.

Being able to PM is a privledge, some sites do not allow it at all because of the abuse that usually comes with it. If someone sticks around for 500 posts they have pretty much shown their loyalty to the forum and their fellow forum members.

Sorry if anything I have said has offended you in any way....these, of course, are just my own personal opinions.

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I would also like to point out that the reason we didn't have PM's before was because they were getting abused at one time.  Not because so-and-so didn't like being contacted/bothered by so-and-so (which can easily be resolved by blocking, of course) but in ways that actually compromised the security of the site.  Webmaster looks over many sites and does not have time to monitor the PM's here, so disabling them until one has reached "godhood" seems like a reasonable solution to me.  It's nothing personal.  Frankly, I'm surprised that we got them back at all.

As for the "us" vs. "them," I'm afraid I don't see it.  As far as I can tell all the regulars that have been around for a long time have always been very welcoming to the newer members that haven't had as many chances to post.

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but there is an "us -vs- them" and right now im in the lead (well standing in for teh duke) come on man MAKE YOUR COME BACK! see thats one of the reasons i dont get the vs thing ether, you sugest a devide? i have a cupple of points on this

the art wars are an example of how welcom we try and make new people, you started on with duke? and your pretty new right? but were having fun with you making these funny battle pictures, were giveing you a big welcom in the way of a colavberation. and anyone can do that, seiriously when we say "welcome to teh forum" we actualy mean it, and why? if jabville had the same resedence it would wither away, and die along with us, but we realise this and are always welcoming new people who are enthusiastic enough to make a anme and have fun, like your self, in my mind your one of our rising stars as it were lol.

another point is that the fact you thin there is a devide means you dont truly know us that well, and by godhood, im really sure you will, youl get whos sarcastic, who you can play with, who you dont argue with, and who you ahould respect. then when you understand us, you become a god and get the great great gift that is the pm lol

now i thinik i worked my socks off for my 500, over 60% of my posts are some kind of art lol. and then when i had 10 posts to go, i made myself an ascension thread lol, were i spamed a convosation with myself... ok that made me seem deranged

all im saying is, seriously your welcome here, none of are the mean monsters we may seem at times, sept JJK

ok ive probubly JABered on for long enough lol

~bedpan