[bignosetin]

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This post has been edited by bignosetin: 07 March 2011 - 08:34 AM

[JAB]

Yes they do. I have one. It's freaking awesome. You draw where you look at.

http://www.wacom.com...cintiq-21ux.php


Word of advice though, back everything up. At least when you draw on paper, the image still exist if you lose your scans. With digital art, there is no paper trail. Good luck.


JAB out

[GemLord]

JAB, on 18 February 2010 - 03:03 AM, said:

Yes they do. I have one. It's freaking awesome. You draw where you look at.

http://www.wacom.com...cintiq-21ux.php


Word of advice though, back everything up. At least when you draw on paper, the image still exist if you lose your scans. With digital art, there is no paper trail. Good luck.


JAB out

God, I hate you people that can afford those badass Cintiqs...I want one sooooo bad!

[MonkeysAlwaysWin]

I use this:



It's a couple of years out of date and nearing the end of its life, but it's been good to me. There are newer models with superior specs available from Fujitsu, and I plan to replace old reliable with one of them as soon as it kicks.

Question for Cintiq users: the touchscreen on my Lifebook is powered by Wacom tech, and I generally get good results as long as I'm drawing in the center of the screen, but as the pen wanders towards the edges, the tracking drifts off the tip of the pen and into la-la land. Does the Cintiq have similar qualities, or does it maintain its accuracy from corner to corner?

Also: I would love nothing more than to work exclusively in Photoshop, but no matter how much I adjust the tool and pen settings, there remains a noticable lag between the time I draw a line and the time it appears on screen. It's less then a half a second, but it's still an eternity to someone used to pencil and paper.

I get far superior results from Manga Studio Debut, which I use exclusively to draw digitally these days, but there are features from Photoshop I miss, and lag still remains an issue, although to a much, much lesser degree.

Has anyone tried Photoshop vs. Manga Studio (or Painter) on Cintiq? What's the feel like? Any comments appreciated.

[Sinope!]

I have a very fast tablet PC as well as a Cintiq. Cintiq's have no lag (they have a quicker response than even the Intuos'). It is night and day as far as performance. I actually hook my cintiq up to my tablet PC now.

The 21" costs $2000 but the 12" is half the price and very usable. I would strongly NOT advise going the tablet PC route.

http://www.frys.com/...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Tablet digitizers are good for coloring and inking where translation from hand to screen makes less of a difference. Unless you've got money to burn, I'd stick with penciling on paper. If you want to cut down on scan time, just grab a hi-res digital camera and take a picture. There should be enough data there to ink your work.

Penciling on a Cintiq greatly changed my workflow though. If I draw an eye really well but its a little out of place I just grab it and move it. Cheating... I know but I've gotten so used to doing it that when I went back to paper, my hand instinctively tried to grab something and move it (rather than bring out the ol eraser and redo it).

I used Manga Studio and it didn't seem to work well with the Cintiq. For some reason it didn't understand "dual monitor" setup and the cursor jumped all over the place. I'm probably just retarted... I'll load it up again and see how it does with Windows7.

Photoshop works fine. The new rotate canvas function is an absolute lifesaver. I mainly use Sketchbook pro 2010. It was designed from the ground up to be used with the Cintiq. You can download it for free from Autodesk's website. Map the side switch to "Pan/Rotate" and sketch away!

[MonkeysAlwaysWin]

Thanks for the advice. Tablets are just too useful for many reasons to give up entirely, so I'll probably update to another regardless, but the Cintiq remains a long term goal. Good to know it has none of the issues associated with the tablet.

I'm a long time Photoshop user, and I've had similar experiences with bouncing back and forth between paper and digital media. I've gone so far as to make a mistake drawing or painting on paper and instinctively curling my left hand into the "Control Z" shape before I realized what I was doing.

Trying Autodesk now. Looking forward to getting back into the mix on the board soon. Thanks again!

[jaganar]

A - FUCKING - MEN


when i get my refund im getting >>http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Genius-G-Pen-F509-Graphics-Tablet/3795656/product.html


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JAB, on 18 February 2010 - 06:03 AM, said:

Yes they do. I have one. It's freaking awesome. You draw where you look at.

http://www.wacom.com...cintiq-21ux.php


Word of advice though, back everything up. At least when you draw on paper, the image still exist if you lose your scans. With digital art, there is no paper trail. Good luck.


JAB out

[Linee]

jaganar, on 22 February 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

A - FUCKING - MEN


when i get my refund im getting >>http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Genius-G-Pen-F509-Graphics-Tablet/3795656/product.html


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Tablet looks interesting. Imma check it out. Tks for sharing.

[jaganar]

altho , i do have to say thank you to Sino' cus without u i wouldnt have seen those 1o inchers

ones that got my attention >>http://www.frys.com/product/6046958?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

http://www.frys.com/...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG (12 inch)


biggy , thanks a bunch for starting this

needless to say i just aint interested in that model i posted anymore .

Jaggy

[Sinope!]

Let me know how that turns out. I've been wondering if these tablets hold up to a wacom which seems to be the gold standard. I wonder if we end up paying a "Wacom Tax" because they are so popular.

I love the 10" because I can draw on my lap, just like I do with a sketchpad. I've on occassion stuck a laptop and the tablet into a bag and did some sketches at the library (er... in a dark corner of course). If you get a chance to try out a demo unit in a store, I suggest you try it. I love digitizers and they are well worth the money however, the Cintiq is really a game changer and if you don't mind eating dog food and taking the bus for a few months, you'll never regret it.

One problem with the 10" is that funny things happen close to the edge. You basically lose about a 1/2" around the border where you can't really draw or the cursor jumps to the left about 3mm. Not too much of a problem since 99% of the time you draw in the middle of the screen. I wonder if the 21" has the same problem... maybe its just a sketchbook pro problem?

[jaganar]

yah but sino , who the hell but the sexy Enigma "uses" every inch of something ?

but seriosly that 20 inch demon (and anything above 12 ) is for those of us who are used to having a wide open birth for our fingers (kina like on a hot girl we are going out with CX ) and u no how an artists hands dont like to be caged up .

how an artist can settle for a 5X3 inch wacom or whatever size is smallest PC-tablet is beyond me .
sure its a tight economy but if u got a scanner for now , you can pinch ur pennies and get the 12 inch demon in a bit ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS learn how to SHOP AROUND i was told it was gonna be a 3-4 week period before i got my taxes back so im definatly getting a 10-12 inch monster .

wacom is the most popular name i have seen on tablets , dunno why tho >__>
but half their shit is like cocaine , people cant get the truth , cus its built on here-say (thats what i think anyway)

oh and buddy , that jumping around is not only restricted to mice , i have that problem with my toshiba laptop on occasion *grumble* but then again im using windows:Garbage ( XP's bastard child )

jaggy

"One problem with the 10" is that funny things happen close to the edge. You basically lose about a 1/2" around the border where you can't really draw or the cursor jumps to the left about 3mm."

[GemLord]

GemLord, on 18 February 2010 - 11:52 PM, said:

God, I hate you people that can afford those badass Cintiqs...I want one sooooo bad!

So, here it is less than a month later...and I'm now one of those people. I stumbled into a large sum of money, and decided the only thing I'd buy was a 21" Cintiq. And guess what? I love it. My productivity has increased ten-fold.

[Sinope!]

GemLord, on 10 March 2010 - 06:04 PM, said:

So, here it is less than a month later...and I'm now one of those people. I stumbled into a large sum of money, and decided the only thing I'd buy was a 21" Cintiq. And guess what? I love it. My productivity has increased ten-fold.

Wow! Congrats Gemlord. I hope you have a lot of fun with that thing. I can't wait to see the results.

[Vltrerax]

GemLord, on 10 March 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

So, here it is less than a month later...and I'm now one of those people. I stumbled into a large sum of money, and decided the only thing I'd buy was a 21" Cintiq. And guess what? I love it. My productivity has increased ten-fold.

man i'm so fucking jealous

i boughy a wacom tablet 3 years ago and i just can't fucking work it out...

maybe i'll get one of those tablet laptops, see how they turned out

[Sinope!]

Tablet laptops are a good in between but the cursor lag will drive you crazy. I hate to say it but they all lag pretty badly.