[mavruda]

Sooo Jab and guys ....


What's the conclusion ?!? Which kung fu is better ? Sketch Book Pro, PhotoShop or Corel Painter ???

I'm currently using PhotoShop and tablet Bamboo - from the smallest ones.... That won't make me better artist I guess... lol... like if you give me a katana, that won't make me samurai..... about the PhShop it has levels of pen pressure....

Okay I just checked for Sketch Book Pro. Saw the interface and everything on the demo and made uninstall - why? Because I do have Art Rage. It has similar interface, immitates different materials and has ability to work with layers - the last one I did not saw in Sketch Book Pro, probably because I did it in a hurry.

About the Cintiq - I can only dream about that thing... I should sell my left kidney and the righ eyeball so I can get that.... or to walk on streets for money with a saign : will f**k for Cintiq - with a link attached.... - I do it for Cintiq...

Cheers,

Mavruda

This post has been edited by mavruda: 14 December 2010 - 12:24 PM

[Dick_Dasterdly]

For a long time I've used Gimp, mostly because I run linux on my Desktop and although I can run Windows programs fine in Wine, they don't give me pressure support from my Wacom Graphire tablet. Gimp suffers from the same problems as PS, it's really a photo editing application. But I recently bought a laptop. A very special laptop. It's a tablet PC. No not a sleek trim Ipad, but a complete laptop, 12" screen 80 gig harddrive 2 gig's of ram, Windows XP pro. What makes it special is it has a wacom tablet built in to the screen and the screen turns around and folds down. Full pressure support with a genuine wacom untethered pen, and the ability to run Windows art programs.

So what? Why is this better than a cintique other than the obvious you get a laptop at the same time? Because it was only $275 used. Yeah, in 2005 it was $1500. But now the laptop portion of it is seven years behind the curve. It's all about 1/2 inch thick I-pads now. All the biznes folk don't want these anymore and have dumped them on the used and refurbished market. They won't last long there, so grab one while you can.

Now one big problem with this is when you fold over the screen it covers the keyboard. Yes you can draw without it, but those hotkeys and modifier keys are important. You may only use two or three of them for some art program but drawing is labor intensive and they're important. But I just plug in a USB keyboard and no worries. Haven't had much time until recently to use it for art though.

Since GIMP sucks hard on Windows (Windows doesn't do a lot of the window handling stuff X-windows does for you which makes Gimps interface seem really awkward, while it's awesome in Linux, plus it's slow on Windows). So I've been trying out other software. Since this system is only 1.4Ghz single and single processor, lighter weight apps are best. I've been using MangaStudio EX4 and Easy Painter Sai. Both let you spin the drawing area easily which is important because like a piece of paper and unlike a traditional tablet, your hand can cover your art work while you draw, and the tablets are NOT as easy to spin as a piece of paper.

Both handle sketching very well, come with neat brushes (ho-hum), and when it comes time to ink, they both provide free hand pens that are stabilized for awesomely professional looking results if you want to use that. MangaStudio also comes with all sorts of bizarre extras, but I don't really use those.

Anyhow they both have free trials so you should check them out, especially Sai painter. Just google it. And it's only $40 if you decide to buy it instead of pirate it forever (which is easy but I bought it). I also thought SketchBook Pro was pretty cool. I loved it's interface, (you really do NOT need a keyboard with it until it's time to type a file name) but the tool set left me little unimpressed.

D-D

[Sinope!]

I've owned a cintiq and a tabletPC at the same time. Mine was a IBM Lenovo which was considered one of the best tablet displays with pressure sensitivity (wacom penabled display). My plan was to replace my Cintiq with the tablet PC which is more flexible.

The tabletPC was not even close to matching the Cintiq:
-Cursor lag is almost non-existant on a Cintiq and is noticable on a tabletPC.
-The Cintiq allows you to use full size weighted pens rather than a tiny stylus.
-Pressure sensitivity is greater allowing for more control over line weight.
-Hot keys are arranged for artist use and not for navigation functionality.
-Glass on the Cintiq has a better "gritty" feel to it.

I immediately returned the tabletPC after only a week of use. Its good for casual sketching and doodling but an artist tool it definitely is not!

Whatever you do, don't try out the cintiq if you're happy with the tabletPC because you'll be HOOKED! Its an expensive piece of kit and you'll be dying to sell off your tabletPC after you've tried the Cintiq.

[JAB]

You also have to take into account the processor speed and RAM on your computer. You really need at least 3 GHz speed and 6 GB of RAM. That's just to ensure that you can draw naturally. However, if you have these speeds and memory and you drawings still suck, then it's you, not the computer.

~JAB

P.S. You can save yourself a whole shit-load of money if all you ever use is a pencil and paper. Then it would just be a matter of scanning it later onto the computer (because you have to admit that the only real place to show your work is the internet, all other places; such as galleries, tattoo parlors, neighborhood walls, toilet stalls, kitchen refrigerator or any area that is inhabited by local people you may know, they all pale in comparison to the all-mighty INTERNET!

[Vibor]

LOL Sinope, I love my tablet PC...


.. I'm waiting for them to release a sintiq with LED backlight

[Sinope!]

Vibor, on 16 March 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

LOL Sinope, I love my tablet PC...


.. I'm waiting for them to release a sintiq with LED backlight

<drool> Yeah! I'm hoping they do an upgrade on the 12" to a lap sized 15" with a backlit LED. Wacom... are you listening?

[Vltrerax]

Guess is pen and paper for me....

Any of you guys work with a tablet or ipad? Is it good?